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PostSubject: W3BL Ban List   Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:00 am

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Player Reason Length
Usa Flag Night Elf icon Sushi Excessive bad manner towards admin Season 2
China Undead icon tyn Double tagging (WCE, CFC) Forever
China Night Elf icon ni9e Double tagging (WCE, CFC) Forever


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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:15 pm

Is this a joke?
tyn and 9 were found triple tagging over a year before you posted this...
There is no foundation for this ban.

And it wasn't with RGV you idiot.
Next time you want to make a fake ban, at least get your "reason" relatively accurate.

Take this rediculous ban off asap, there is no reason for it.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:53 pm

Well, W3BL + UEG = W3BL-1 / W3BL-2 a.k.a we merged, meaning all rules and bans apply

http://unitede-sportsgaming.myphpbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64 <-- read the top of that

UEG|Faith wrote:
After Usa Flag InfC finished up vs China CFC, it has come to attention that China Undead icon cfc.witty, also known as Tyn, and China Night Elf icon cfc.ni9ne have both been double tagging. They both have been found to be playing for CFC, as well as wce.

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Peach.Cobbler wrote:
apparently tyn and ni9ne have been playing for 3 teams!!!!!!! this is quite an accomplishment the only previous person i know who has done this is xG.Nevermind < http://w3bleague.darkbb.com/w3bl-news-f8/r1-q1-rgv-vs-ing-t45.htm >

Peach.Cobbler = ICL]Peach

That post was made on Sun Jun 08, 2008 which was only what, little over 4 months ago?


Damn, you must feel stupid right now.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:48 pm

LMFAO rapeddd
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:27 pm

Sry but the last clan war that Tyn played for WCE was dated to be on June 7th.

The first clan war that Tyn played for RGV was dated to be June 8th.

Which means he wasn't playing for both teams at the same time.

I told him he couldn't double or triple tag if he was going to play for RGV.

W3BL|Synk wrote:
LMFAO rapeddd

lol what a stupid kid.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:41 am

Triple tag or double tag its the same thing


and 1 day? hahaha that is still triple tagging, 1 day doesnt make a difference, ask anyone.

and yes, 'LMFAO rapedddd ' again
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:45 am

?
is that a bad joke?
One day is one day.
One day he played for WCE, the next day he didn't.
One day he didn't play for RGV, the next day he did.
Which means he never double tagged with RGV and WCE.

You posted your proof on how they were double tagging with RGV and WCE and that has been proved wrong.
They never double tagged while in RGV, which means W3BL has nothing to do with their double tagging of a long time ago, therefore they should not be banned.

I can see why ni9ne. would be banned from UEG, however, that ban was lifted after the first season of the league.
"Both players will be banned and not allowed to play for CFC, or any other team for UEG, for the remainder of Season One"
You are, however, basing the ban on Tyn off of a conversation which there is no evidence leading to the conclusion of a double tag.
"Sunkist says:
you play for wce?
yunan says:
no does it matter
Sunkist says:
yes
Sunkist says:
it does matter
Sunkist says:
I'm going to ask again.. do you play for any other team other than cfc?
yunan says:
no

Sunkist says:
have you played a game for cfc in league
yunan says:
so far 1 game like last week
Sunkist says:
... you can't play for both
yunan says:
i am not
Sunkist says:
which have you not played for
yunan says:
wce"

W3BL|Shikaka wrote:
Well, W3BL + UEG = W3BL-1 / W3BL-2 a.k.a we merged, meaning all rules and bans apply
The merge was done after the ban was lifted... so why does this even matter.

Unless you have other evidence, that ban should not have been made, but as quoted before, they were only banned from UEG for season one. Both bans have been lifted from UEG, and there is no possibility for a just banning of them in W3BL without more posted proof. Therefore, there is absolutely no reason for them to be banned by you in these two leagues at this time.

Unless you have something further to post as proof, remove the bans.


W3BL|Shikaka wrote:
and yes, 'LMFAO rapedddd ' again
lol, every admin is a stupid kid... this league has some potential...

base your bans off of evidence, not off of bias against RGV just because we know how stupid a person you are and how incredibly bad of an admin you are. Doing so would only further prove our knowing of your failure at life.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:19 am

No, UEG and W3BL merged during UEG playoffs.. just didn't move sites quite yet. Faith stepped down, which means i resume power over UEG and act as head admin. I choose to keep the ban forever, just as every other league would do. Double tagging is a serious offense and is not taken lightly. Please re-read what i said, this ban is based off the WCE/CFC double tagging, and from what peach posted it looked to be triple tagging, either way they are still both banned as each offense is as serious as the other.


The fact is, tyn and ni9e were BOTH caught double tagging and were both banned in UEG, i take over and change ban to forever. I have asked other HEAD ADMINS and ADMINS of top leagues

IEL]CK - 'forever imo'

ICL]NzaR - '1 season, i dont think anything should be perma bannable'

WGS|HULK - 'forever duh'

WPL|Casanova - 'perma ban him'

WCL|Knight - 'would probably be perm'

WCIP|D4nny - 'just remove them from season'


4-2, ill go ahead with the majority on this one. if it really bugs you that much, i can change it to just double tagging, EITHER way they are STILL banned. Their ban can be appealed after 2nd season.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:39 am

First off, you should change it to double tagging because that's what it was... not because it bugs me.
Secondly, this link here:
http://unitede-sportsgaming.myphpbb.com/forum/portal.php
shows Faith saying that he wasn't going to have enough time to run a SECOND SEASON, as well as that UEG would merge with W3BL, on September 14th, 2008.
The post of the finals was made on September 1st, 2008, which would further prove that the season was already over when the decision to merge as well as the decision for Faith to step down was made.
Also, Faith said that he wouldn't have enough time to manage the second season, he clearly did finish managing season one however. At least this is how it looks in the eyes of everyone (other than maybe Faith and you if there was some under the table deal which is not currently visible to the common peoples).
One more thing on this topic, you're not even listed, on that website, as an admin, which means either the update failed to compose or that you weren't an admin of it at all until you became head admin for season two.

If what I'm saying is correct, then you didn't have any authority to extend the ban on against tyn and ni9ne because you didn't become head admin until after the season was completely over, finals and all. Also, you have no reason ban them at all for W3BL.

Lastly, I would like to comment that almost everyone spells ni9ne's name wrong...
It is ni9ne, not ni9e.

P.S. Most admins wouldn't ban them forever and if they do then they might not be very good admins. Either that or they would be making a terrible decision. Banning anyone forever for any reason is a terrible move to make unless the player does something like hack in 4 leagues in a row after being banned from each league back to back. Something like that is rediculous and the player obviously can't be trusted... Double tagging once however isn't as serious an offense.. The reasoning behind this is that players can change (for example these players were forced to quit their other teams in order to play for RGV, I made sure of this which is also why I emphasized why that one day mattered a good amount). To not give a player a second chance even though the player has already changed for the better is exactly what I would call an act of bad administration.
Sry for the long P.S. =/ hard to explain it in a more compact manner.
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PostSubject: Banned Players   Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:53 am

I do not understand what the problem is or why there is so much questioning here. Tyn and Ni9ne were both banned for playing for both cfc, and wce. I do not know what else needs to be said, rather than good job to Shik to enforcing the rules..
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:26 pm

UEG-Faith wrote:
I do not understand what the problem is or why there is so much questioning here. Tyn and Ni9ne were both banned for playing for both cfc, and wce. I do not know what else needs to be said, rather than good job to Shik to enforcing the rules..

Don't speak in conversations you don't understand.
I'm well aware that you don't understand what the problem is, and it would take too long for anyone to explain it to you.
The point is, those two players shouldn't be banned, and this is an argument discussing the technicalities of evidence provided in favor of the banning.
If his evidence fails, which it has unless he has more, then the bans have every reason to be lifted, and no reason to remain.

The only way they could remain banned is for him to be a bad admin and say "fuck reasoning, they are banned anyways". Which is possible and likely knowing Shik as admin.
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PostSubject: Re: W3BL Ban List   Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:10 pm

You realize Faith is the one who banned them?

And you calling me a bad admin because i banne dyour best player for excessive bad mannering is your own fault. I run 2 leagues by myself, if you or anyone you know even HAD THE BALLS to step up and run i would gladly support you like i do all leagues. "blahblah shik is so biased blah shik banning is so dumb blah blah" just SHUT THE FUCK UP and take it for what it is. Just like Sushi told me on aim this is a NOOB league, why the fuck you care anyways.. i don't need anymore evidence, faith has CLEARLY supported the continuation of the ban.

"maybe a 3rd or 4th offense then you should ban" are you fucking kidding me? Do you know who cali is? he has been given 4 times, and he clearly hasnt learned.. a cheater is a cheater double tagging is just as bad as any other type of cheating so please just sit down and take a chill pill. Like i said all bans can be appealed after the 2nd season, and they can be lifted if the admin sees fit.

You aren't taking this anywhere but stating you same plain boring points that have no affect. I AM NOT LIFTING THE BAN AS OF RIGHT NOW thanks.
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